Saturday, February 24, 2007

Wizard Of Trading Room Oz! Who Is Behind The Curtain And Can They Help?




Trading rooms are springing up everywhere along with trading blogs, chat rooms and bulletin boards and even seminars. It is time to have a discussion about all of these sites and events and what their benefits are.

List the sites you know about and give some information about why they are useful or what deceptions they are peddling. Be sure to list all the gurus that these sites push and tell us what you really think about them.

Are their methods sound, helpful or full of hot air?

What do you think about the level of traders participating at that site?

Which characters at those sites remind you of the Wizard of Oz, or Dorthy, the Lion or the Tin Man? How about the Fairy Goddess or the brutal Witch or even those nasty little flying monkeys!

Let's pin point who is behind that curtain once and for all!

Stick to the facts and discuss the specific pros and cons of these sites so that people can know the inside scoop!

To post a link so that it is useful to everyone here please use the simple format:


<A href="http://www.website.com"> Site Name </A>


Thanks to all of you for making our Trading Room Feedback blog number highly successful! We all here believe that our success is because of you! We appreciate you posting this blogs address into the postings and trading rooms all over.

Keep it up!

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Anonymous said...

Unless this blog address is posted in woodie's room, it serves no purpose for the same 3 people who visit here to even bother anymore. I'm indifferent to the whole situation, so I couldn't care less. I don't go to woodie's room, never have. I know too much about his bs. I read this blog for entertainment purposes only. Someone in gio's room mentioned it a while back, and I enjoy reading the occasional post from someone too stupid to realize woodie is playing them - lol.

C'mon u woodie supporters (jock straps?), do ure thing for ure master - lol. And the rest of u, keep posting this blog in woodie's room. It makes for good reading here. Maybe someday, someone of consequence will read it and take some action. (But I doubt it - lol)

I'll be back in a month or so to see how ure doing.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

This site is great for entertainments purposes and yes it's too bad tha woodie keeps up his scamming ways but you can't fix stupid.

Anonymous said...

I finally caught onto woodie awhile ago, when I listen to him now he makes me SICK, what a scammer and BS'er he is, to bad so many traders listen to that loser....

Anonymous said...

how many moderators has woodie banned over the last few yrs, probably quite a few, not to mention the traders that are sick of his bs...

Anonymous said...

What Woodie really needs to do, is open a small account, somewhere that allows investors read only access to the account, preferably with PAMM facilities, so the small account is traded exactly as his own account. Let him trade it for a week, and allow people to see results. I think PFG might even offer such a set up.

Perhaps everyone could contribute a few bucks to get the account funded. If the accounts showing a profit, at the end of a month, send the profits to charity.

If he's not profitable.... well it wouldnt really surpise me :-)

What has woodie got to lose ?, everyone wins, he proves he walks the walk, his naysayers get proved wrong, and the charities he promotes make a few bucks.

come on woodie.. put up, or STFU

Anonymous said...

isn't that what woodies so called "autotrading" is suppose to do?

Anonymous said...

hey now, let's all be nice

I think its time for a group meat'n'greet, let's all pile in and hit the Woodie TAL in Vegas, hurry, seats are filling up fast.

Anonymous said...

Woodie would never set up a transparent account.....if you ever try to follow his CCI stuff you will lose a lot of money and he does not want you to see THAT!

I followed that jerk for 2 years and never made a cent. "Crappy Cash Incinerator" is what the damn thing is. They keep making the time frame smaller and smaller and it still doesn't work. UGH.

And half of the moderators don't trade.....and the other half does not use Woodie's CCI crap. Including Woodie!!!!!!!

That room is testament to an ego gone wild. Nothing more.

Anonymous said...

WCCI

Worthless
Crappy
Cash
Incenerator

Anonymous said...

Sport Wrote On His Blog:


So don't let others get you down, don't let them make you believe you are just a loser because you think they are making it work and you are having problem....the truth might just be that they are retired and living off some fat pension and this is just a hobby and a way to pass the time. Or like Woodie, have your wife work as an executive for American Express while you collect disablities insurance. I have not her of her being at any Trade-A-Longs since December of 2003, guess she even figured it out.

=======================

Does anyone know what disabilities Woodie has?

Or what he did for his professional work?

Anonymous said...

Woodie has diabetes and heart problems. And he was a salesman for a chemical company back east.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone give away their time everyday of the year and their best leading profitable method every day of the year for free to a bunch of unknown internet chat attendees.

If you believe that story, do I have a Brooklyn Bridge to sell you, and please look under your pillow tonight to see if tooth fairy will reimburse you for all the trades you lost.

Come to think of it, if he has such a successful system, he should be a billionaire by now, and would not be using cheap stuff for trading, not too long ago, he was using sierra charts with ib feed to save money. Think about it, if you had a successful strategy would anybody that successful do that.

If also one had such a successful strategy that constantly made money, why is it then that he comes up with a new strategy every time, he has a TAL.

Lately after his fiasco and farce when he held a webinar at cme, his membership declined to around 250 at his basic room including his many dummy's (not real but duplicate log ons). Thus he now is introducing yet another test method to boost up his membership, supposedly free (Good Laugh on that one).

A small snippet at his pitiful attempt with late posts and of course all winners, even the ones that lost (Lol).

woodie just signed in.

patrick just signed in.

LB just signed in.

- [10:29:58 AM] woodie says:
new CCI set up test trade long er at 794.70

{Author's note: Late post as usual }

- [10:30:21 AM] maknmony says:
tx woodie

- [10:30:49 AM] woodie says:
gm all

- [10:31:17 AM] woodie says:
1 off +10

{Author's note: Late post as usual, as it dropped }

- [10:31:37 AM] woodie says:
stop b/e +1

GaryGG just signed in.

- [10:34:59 AM] woodie says:
thks going for 100 tics

- [10:36:19 AM] woodie says:
i'm testing a new CCI set up..been working good on HSI

- [10:36:29 AM] woodie says:
so want to test

- [10:36:35 AM] woodie says:
on other things

- [10:38:28 AM] woodie says:
+30 total trade

{Authors Note: What a trade, after the fact lol }

- [10:38:38 AM] debbie says:
beautiful Woodie

- [10:38:38 AM] bg says:
wtg woodie...nice trade

- [10:38:39 AM] boo says:
wtg woodie

- [10:38:42 AM] maknmony says:
wtg woodie

- [10:38:58 AM] woodie says:
thks

LB just signed out.

- [10:48:20 AM] woodie says:
s on famie at 793.30

{Authors note: Late post, market alread dropped}

- [10:49:03 AM] woodie says:

- [10:49:28 AM] woodie says:
stopped b/e +1

{Author's note: Prior Late post after market dropped is stopped also late post for b/e + 1, what a scammer }

- [10:52:41 AM] gman says:
nice trade........woodie of course........lol

- [10:53:36 AM] gman says:
solid and consistant

- [10:54:01 AM] maknmony says:
they don't call him the Boss for nothing

- [10:54:29 AM] gman says:
true makin.....the boss of all bosses

- [10:55:30 AM] Cemo says:
l 94.4

- [10:55:32 AM] Merbal says:
woodie are you using the same profit target and hard stop when the volatility is high

- [10:56:11 AM] woodie says:
yes

- [10:56:30 AM] maknmony says:
yeah...this cci stuff really works............................

- [11:00:43 AM] woodie says:
l ym at 81

- [11:00:46 AM] woodie says:
zlr

- [11:06:01 AM] woodie says:
1 off +20

{Authors note: Wow an amazing trade If you believe this, also note that Cemo posted he was long in real time 45 sec before W)

- [11:06:18 AM] bg says:
wtg woodie

- [11:06:39 AM] woodie says:
stop b/e +1

- [11:15:41 AM] woodie says:
out last +15

- [11:15:50 AM] woodie says:
total trade +35

- [11:15:59 AM] gman says:
sweet

- [11:16:03 AM] Cemo says:
wtg woodie

- [11:16:03 AM] woodie says:
100 cross exit

- [11:16:08 AM] Carlos says:
Nice Woodie Nice

- [11:16:36 AM] maknmony says:
gee woodie....your really good at this.......................

- [11:16:38 AM] Philip says:
WTG woodie

- [11:16:45 AM] woodie says:
thks

- [11:17:41 AM] Carlos says:
woodie is like Moses and the Ten Patterns

- [11:17:46 AM] Philip says:
woodie, if I may ask, are you planing to release teh new setup soon?


{Authors Note: End of chat snippet. A pitiful attempt to prove that he is a trading master }


Now you can draw your own conclusions as to why he is trying another pitiful attempt to develop yet another pattern, if he was successful all along ???

Finally, W is quite cagey, as he usually uses voice, but I finally have something he has written which clearly is libelous, I will try to dig it up and post it in a few days, and hope that the fella he slandered will sue him and teach him a big lesson, as well as take him to the cleaners.

Anonymous said...

What is the purpose of a TAL? In the beginning (or at least in the first few years of Woodie's chatroom, there were conventions, gatherings, meetings, whatever you wanted to call them, culminating with the Vegas meeting in December of 2003.

After that it was discussed in the room how much people wanted to meet with Woodie and trade live with him - "trade along" with him. Instead of people going to AZ to meet with woodie, he "volunteered" to go to whatever city had about 30 people who would pop for about $250 each to take care of expenses and the remainder would go to the Make-a-Wish foundation.

Has Woodie ever actually traded at one of these things? Not a chance. It was asked of Woodie at one TAL if the doors could be closed, all computers shut off, except Woodie's and only he would be able to trade and the attendees would just watch. Of course woodie, claimed this was not possible for "legal reasons." To a person, everyone there knew that was BS. Just a few of those people have ever returned to Woodie's room. I've never been back. This TAL took place after the West Palm Beqach TAL, where Gio traded live for a full day and was quite impressive. She must have had 30-40 people crowded around her watching. Woodie was pissed. It wasn't long afterward that she left woodie's room as eventually all moderators have found Woodie to not be what he claimed to be.

The only moderator who stuck with Woodie, was Tony, and that's because he is the one who actually controls the web site and taught woodie how to take full advantage of all the suckers in the room. He's got a nice little thing going with the compensation involved in the web site click thrus. Those ads aren't there because of the goodness of Tony's heart. This doesn't even include the free world travel Woodie and Tony, have charged to the TAL's (and don't forget Tony's wife - someone had to collect at the door, and should of course be flown first class with all expenses paid, including Tony's bar tab.)

But I digress - anyway, a TAL was supposed to be the attendees watching Woodie trade, and it was always mentioned how they would make back their money spent on attending, because they'd trade right with Woodie. The first TAL in Chicago showed everyone that was not to be. Woodie walked around and pointed to potential set ups, but never took one. About an hour or two into it, no one was even attempting to trade. It became just another meeting of people from the room. Those attending would later claim it was worth it just to put a face to names in the room. That was the reason I went to 3 of the TAL's - I had friends in the room and this was just a social gathering. I don't regret a minute of that. I do regret that my money went into Woodie and Tony's pockets - I regret I didn't send it to MAW directly and arranged my own meetings with friends from the room.

As they say, there is nothing more expensive than regret.

Anonymous said...

Now that is a great post

Anonymous said...

I agree with that and the last poster. What a great post! Sums it up and lays it out.

This is an excellent and informative blog for sure. Thanks to the creaters!

Anonymous said...

Tucker Report


Check this site out. He says it like it is. It is too big to copy and paste here.
Woodie is such an ego maniac

Anonymous said...

I'd sure like to shake hands w/that person who wrote that, WOW, that hit home, it's really too bad that woodie is allowed to mislead people and get away with it, it's the same story over and over, just different people

I log into his room on occassion and it just makes me sick to listen to him and his schiesters, Neil this, Neil that, 200/mo for auto trading, don't ask me questions, ya de ya de da, big firms wanna buy into it but I won't let them, i'm all for the small guy, what a bunch of crap.

we should start posting this blog in his stupid room again.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate the comments about my post on the TAL's. But that Tucker report is really a great unbiased synopsis of what the problem is with CCI itself - I congratulate the author for the time and effort that went into it.

I think the gist of what I was trying to say is that in the beginning Woodie generally was trying to help - not just others, but himself. I think he was looking for a good trading system and the room was more of a cooperative situation where there was an exchange of ideas and the comradery of a chat room lessened the loneliness of online trading.

Then along came the prospect of profitting from the sheer number of the members of the room. Tony was never a great trader but he saw the opportunity - Woodie just went along for the ride as he attained guru status - he became exactly what he was warning all of us to beware of. So much of what has happened is because Woodie was not honest enough to just admit his motives. If he had just said, that the room is now meant to be a profitable venture for him, and people could take it or leave it, I don't think too many people would have faulted him for that. Instead he took the route of trying to fool everyone. Most of us realized it and left. It's just unfortunate that there are those who still don't see it and there are newer members who haven't experienced it - yet.

Unless this blog and articles like the "Tucker Report" are brought to the attention of the people in the room, there will be a continuous trail of lost traders. The trading group from Chicago did extensive testing of the CCI and also found it had far less than stellar results and soon thereafter disbanded. All the while, Woodie continued to tout that CCI was all that was needed.

I think he meant that CCI was all he needed to keep the room going, and for Tony to keep his web site going. You can bet that PFG backs the room because they found a cheap means of marketing their brokerage. I don't think Neil is there because he enjoys the company of inexperienced traders. But, hey, to each his own.

Oh yeah, it also meant free travels around the world for Woodie and Tony (and wife) at the expense of people who trusted him.

Anonymous said...

I went to Woodies TAL in Seattle and later Dr. Bobs TAL in NJ.The accomodations where good at both but Doc's cost was over $200 less and he gave back refunds on unused costs.Never saw Woodie trade or call out entries.But got to talk to gb007 which was worth the trip by itself and watched Nicktrader trade live.At Dr Bobs both he and Dharma were trading live.The NJ also had alot of experienced traders and I learned alot watching and talking to them.

Anonymous said...

No need for so many words - however good. We all know Woodie is a freaking two-headed snake like the picture posted shows.

If you guys really think he trades futures, or you really think even GB trades futures - you are highly mistaken.

They trade options only. Can't you guys figure that out yet?

Anonymous said...

let's all just log into his room and feed him hype, it feels good to turn his frown upside down, he's a piss ant today but he's cheering up w/all the ass kiss'n, he's so full of himself it's hilarious and it beats the clock in between trades...

enjoy and have a great weekend

Anonymous said...

Hey blog owner - how bout a new topic? With all the crap Woodie and crew dish out, how bout we discuss what can be done to stop the insanity.

Thank for this blog. If it helps even one person, it is valuable.

Anonymous said...

The only thing we can do is tell our stories in this blog and hope newbies see it and stay far far away from chat rooms in general and Woodie's Room specifically.

Anonymous said...

we can all do just a little bit, post this link in his room every now and then...

Anonymous said...

is he really that bad?

"traders helping traders"

Anonymous said...

No Woodie isn't that bad.

He just likes to have his ass kissed on a regular basis.

And you will lose a lot of money if you ever are so dumb as to try and follow his hindsight trades.

And his CCI method is a total waste of time.

Now what does that leave you?

The rantings of a nasty old man and the braying of some clueless newbie moderators.

No he ain't that bad.......

ROFLMAO

Anonymous said...

how can he call the CCI a leading indicator when it follows price? every indicator known is lagging, price is king, so wtf is he talking about...

and he calls patterns on the cci revolutionary, ROTFLMAO

cmon people, wake up....

Anonymous said...

i've been using the CCI for a while now, it's working for me, the key is to develop your plan and stick w/it, it's not hard to beat the market if you have a strategy, there's not doubt that candles work too, just have a plan is all...

Anonymous said...

I agree w/the above poster, cci does indeed work, look at the successful traders that have branched away from WCCI...

TW
Gio
MadScalper
Dharma

just to name a few

Anonymous said...

The negativity here needs to stop. This person is likely losing money and needs someone to blame. I have had only good experiences, Woodie is as professional as they come.

Anonymous said...

This whole idea off CCI being a leading indicator and the implication that it is the only and best leading indicator is just nonsense. If you are new to trading and you heard this early in your exposure to trading fundamentals, you might just believe it is so. It is not true and CCI is just one of many indicators that are classified as leading by organizations and people that study and document these sort of things.

Most oscillators, and yes CCI is nothing but an oscillator, are classified as leading indicators. Others in this group include RSI, Stochastics, Ergodics and the lowly CCI of course. They are all called leading indicators simply because they all have overbought and oversold regions in their plotting and will give buy or sell signals as they move out of these areas before a new trend starts. The problem with them all is that they will give signals, but WHICH signal is the real change in trend?

The other type of indicators is classified as lagging indicators and will only signal a change after a new trend is in place. These are moving averages, MACD, Bollinger bands, etc

Have you ever seen or taken a trend line break in CCI or a break in a ghost pattern and found out that the break you took was not the real break? As these leading indicators give off signals that are not the REAL signal, they can stay overbought or oversold.

The real problem with all of this is the incredible use of ATF (After the fact.) charts and analysis to promote the exclusive use of CCI. What you do not see in these ATF charts, unless you look real closely and relive the right edge mentally, are the fits and starts that often occur before the clear as a bell signal in the ATF chart. The little bumps and blips in that NO PRICE chart represent REAL PRICE movements of sometimes extraordinary size.

Add to this the use of a small period (14/6) setting, and you will get signals galore. Oh yes, you could use a longer time frame chart, like a 5 minute and get less signals, but you will still get false signals and the longer time frame has just given you false signal that much later. You are damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Your only choice is to develop a trading system around this stuff and take every signal and play the odds with stops and targets. etc. Well if that was so easy to do, then there would be an auto system made for this stuff and you could plug it in and go to the beach and make a ton of money. Hmmmmm….. did you ever wonder why that hasn’t happened?

Learn price, learn support and resistance levels on price, learn money management and set profit goals and leave the rest of this nonsense to the scalpers and newbies whose money you will be taking.

Anonymous said...

Trading successfully requires overcoming instinct. Very few are able to do this and that is why so many fail. When you learn to go with whatever the market gives you and stop trying to impose your will on the market, and stop guessing where the market will go next, is when you will start making money. For most people this is almost impossible, and that is why so few com make money consistently. Successful trading is 85% discipline and money management and 15% charts and indicators. Work on money management and discipline. You can make money with MM and Flipping a coin (which is 50% over time). Over the last year my avg. win rate trading 6 CCI Patterns together on the ER has been consistently 71%. I did very well, Thank You

Anonymous said...

There's much more to Auto Trading than people think. For a CCI Auto Trading System check out systemautotrader.com I know Guy real well, He makes a TON of money and only has a few losing days a year. He posts his charts in his forum every day. Also PFG will have 6 Auto Trading CCI Systems for people by the end of the year, go to www.woodiescciclub.autotrade all doing very well I might add.

Anonymous said...

woodiescciclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2672

Here's documented Trading Statistics for the trades taken in Woodie's Chat Room. "Not To Shabby"

Anonymous said...

Oh stop with the bullshit about Guy V. Give it a rest would you.

Anybody trading more then 3 years knows Guy V is full of crap.

Latent postings and without exits equals FULL OF SHIT. We looked at his 'work' 1 year ago, asked him questions and he was flailing terribly.

In fact, he is no different then TW and his constant "DID YOU SEE THAT? DID YOU SEE THAT? DID YOU?" trading-teaching-bullshit crapola.

- Guy V does not make tons of money.

- Autotrading does not work, At All. Think about it dummy, think harder. Critical thinking is required here so be forewarned.

- TW can't trade, but you all know that so no need to repeat it. Just using it as a bearing for you of BULLSHIT indicator.

Anonymous said...

People who do not post their personal statistics with proof are full of CRAP. Did you notice not one of these would be "gurus" even gives us his bottom line?

I was dazzled by Woodie for a couple of years until.....well, just leave it at that.

But unless I see a track record, I consider it all bullshit and lies.

Anonymous said...

Hi Cathy

Anonymous said...

Hi TW

Anonymous said...

Just like the ole days, Hi Dana....lol

Anonymous said...

Hi Guy... This place is always good for a laugh...LOL

Anonymous said...

GIO, is that you? how ya been?

Anonymous said...

Just Fine - GenYus, says Hi to.

Anonymous said...

let's not forget about me, madscalper's doing great, gotta love that sweet spot zlr..

Anonymous said...

Hi Soren, you mad scalper

Anonymous said...

Hi Dax.....how is it going?

Anonymous said...

Is it you Dennis aka Sport?

Anonymous said...

Naw, ya gots it wrong...it is TW

Anonymous said...

Hi TW, how's that paid service working out for ya? enough to cover your losses? lol....

Anonymous said...

Maybe it is Dr. Famir coming back from the grave to warn us? It is that halloween time of year!

Anonymous said...

or perhaps we have Dana lurking in the background w/her T133 "did it work" Ghosties...

Anonymous said...

I liked Dana, she was one of the better ones in WCCI, what ever happened to her?

Anonymous said...

W gave himself away badly today. He has always claimed that the Rooms was free, and everything was free, because 1. The CCI worked as it was revolutionary and 2. He was a great trader and 3. If he wanted money, all he did was throw on a few extra contracts and thus he did not need to charge anybody anything, therefore everything was benevelenty free to his beloved constantly changing faithful. And then suprisingly today this is what happened in the Advanced Chat Room today.

To save space only the pertinent text is included, plus a comment near the end by the author.

Draw your own conclusions, and please note his outrageous spelling, makes u wonder what grade he graduated from ?

cr just signed in.

pam just signed in.

woodie1 just signed in.

Wendy just signed in.

- [12:29:50 PM] woodie1 says:
how many people here in room coming to vegas seminae?

- [12:30:24 PM] maknmony says:
no...but wish I could

- [12:30:45 PM] debbie says:
yeah - would luv to get to one - can't make the Vegas one

- [12:31:14 PM] woodie1 says:
out of 95 people in room not 1 coming

- [12:31:36 PM] debbie says:
Woodie - maybe some are at lunch right now

- [12:31:56 PM] woodie1 says:
ok

- [12:32:00 PM] Doug123 says:
Hi Woodie- I won't be able to make it either...

- [12:33:02 PM] woodie1 says:
i'm asking mainly for those who hve not attended 1 yet

- [12:34:39 PM] woodie1 says:
my reason people is ..we make this room avaiable free and seems no one is spporting the club...

- [12:35:01 PM] woodie1 says:
that dissappoints me

- [12:35:23 PM] woodie1 says:
yo could learn alot by goin

- [12:35:50 PM] woodie1 says:
again talking to those who have not attended on

- [12:35:56 PM] marvs says:
I've been to 2 Vegas Tals

- [12:36:35 PM] kc says:
woodie been to vegas 03 prolly should go to another

- [12:36:52 PM] maknmony says:
been to 2 Orlando TALs

- [12:37:13 PM] donna says:
can't do this one, but am looking forward to another

- [12:37:35 PM] kc says:
like ta do an option tal

- [12:37:37 PM] woodie1 says:
maybe just have room here for thos of you that have been o a TAL...close it to others

wjmoc just signed in.

- [12:37:56 PM] jd says:
i'm coming to LV woodie

- [12:38:04 PM] woodie1 says:
great jd

- [12:40:32 PM] woodie1 says:
there are some here who been here for awhile and not supported the club...but just keep taking..time to either close room or get peoplewho will

- [12:42:15 PM] mbkent says:
Woodie I am registered for Vegas

- [12:42:29 PM] woodie1 says:
great mb

- [12:43:30 PM] woodie1 says:
and thks to you tat have been to others..its thosewho do noting but let others work for then and just kep taking

- [12:43:52 PM] Cemo says:
woodie i paid for last orlando but couldnt make it, so keepin it for next orlando

- [12:44:22 PM] woodie1 says:
thks cemo

gb007 just signed in.

- [12:48:47 PM] pam says:
hey GB...it has been a long time since i saw you

- [12:50:40 PM] gb007 says:
pam quite honestly i would be here more often but i find the chat distracting with the volume of non-trade related posts when the market is tradable

- [12:51:19 PM] woodie1 says:
gb agree...

- [12:51:37 PM] gb007 says:
hi woodie

- [12:51:43 PM] pam says:
i agree with you GB..i am seldom in here either

- [12:51:46 PM] Guyv says:
is why i'm not here alot, and have said so before

- [12:54:14 PM] woodie1 says:
time to close room to those only who help or support the club nd seriuos about traing

- [1:07:07 PM] woodie1 says:
some better support the club as well...not justkep taking

- [1:39:47 PM] wjmoc says:
If anyone in the room has not been to one of Woodies Trade-A-Longs you should sign up as soon as possible. The thinking is to close room to anyone who has not attended. There are a few reasons why one might not be able to attend then a nice dontion to Make-A-Wish is in order.Be sure and mention Woodies name.


- [1:57:42 PM] wjmoc says:
There are too many good traders taking their knowledge and leaving the room. The room in on the line. Either we all change our behavior on the room will be closed down by Woodie. We all must give much more support to Woodie and the room. Some of you will have leave because you refuse to make behavior changes. If the room is not worth saving Woodie will shut it down. First there has to be much better attendance from those in the room at Trade-A-Longs.

- [2:12:04 PM] woodie1 says:
yes trad navigator has it al...next week releae will have the new wcci club front end which will give you stats in reports and equity curve all at a click of the buy and sll..


{ Suprising admission that PFG is sponsoring the room, then why is he soliciting funds for TAL to support the room, draw your own conclusion, also note, he is also pedaling DVD videos to trade the cci, and if that is the case, what is the purpose of attending a TAL, other than payola, sounds like the Mafia to me. }

- [2:16:46 PM] woodie1 says:
pfg neil sponsers this room..and is in basic room al the time..support up top just a click away

- [2:17:32 PM] woodie1 says:
new front will have things nobody else has tohelp traders

- [2:19:22 PM] woodie1 says:
also nexr wek ALL NE DVD'S trading the CCI set of 6 with bonuses will be rleased with money going to charite...all in high def ...alot of oney spent to make these nothing on market like it first class all the way

- [2:20:58 PM] woodie1 says:
dvd home study course...

nicker just signed in.

Anonymous said...

I am aghast that anyone would stay in Woodie's room after all the bullshit that has gone on, and STILL is going on. I read Tony asked Dennis to come back??? I know I am not getting my gold plated invitation to come back since I am sure those two are only looking for RICH FRIENDS. Not the little people he used to help. He just shut the door on us when his CCI did not work as advertised and we lost our accounts.
The senile old man is just so full of himself.

Anonymous said...

Hi Cathy

Anonymous said...

where ya been hanging out Cathy? are you still trading, hopefully your doing better than that Scheister dickhead, er I mean Woodie...

Anonymous said...

This is what I have been doing. Writing a blog about the bare naked truth about trading. None of the "use my CCI and make a million overnight" crapola. The real gritty truth!
Bare Naked Trading

Anonymous said...

Is he still selling HotConference for USD$500/month when I, and anyone else, get it for about USD$25/month?

Anonymous said...

nice website Cathy, glad your sticking w/it, stay w/your plan, you'll get it back

Anonymous said...

So why don't you lead a class action lawsuit against Woodie for fraud if you think he is as bad as you say? People have asked for your help but you are silent.

We don't have the money anymore and would could help everyone, but all this blog is about is just bitching about everyone behind a vail.

Guess you don't have what it takes to be a real man/women and step forward do you?

Enjoying your life under a rock!!!

Anonymous said...

Yea Woodie is in Vegas with 140 sucking the life out of 134 people selling his new DVD trading course after they paid 450 bucks to attend and all they hear is open and account with LFG and you can use the autotrader and what the shit are you doing.

NOTHING!

Help us poor people, you are the only one.

Anonymous said...

Aw...you want to make money off a lawsuit, but you don't want to do any work....poor little fella!

Just call it a day and move on. That is what I did. Much healthier.

Anonymous said...

For Cathy - your buddies Don Miller then Woodie, can't help it if you CAN'T TRADE - it's not their fault (plenty of other people make their methods work)

Anonymous said...

This update askes a question, who is behind the curtain and can they help?

The answer has to be
1. A Fucking Moran
2. A Pussy since they stay behind the curtain.
3. A ShitAss since only negative posts and bitching about Woodie.
4. All the Above

Go fuck off since you wouldn't help us get our money back from this fucking ahit ass moran, oh I guess you are the same.

Anonymous said...

Don't call my lover a fucking shit ass moran, that is my job.

Anonymous said...

Actually that's Kate's job, she blew her account following Woodie into the ground trading the unFarmir.

Where is Kate these days????

Drinkin wine with Tony is Vegas I guess after all it's another TAL and the faggot had to first over with his wife. Wonder how he is going to get a blow job from Kate while screwing the attendees.

Anonymous said...

Where did you say that Kate and Bonnie were giving blow jobs to moderators??

My wife is shopping!

Anonymous said...

You don't want Susan to give you a blow job because she will only be crying if you want her to swollow.

Where is Barbara at these days?

Doing DrBob and JeanYUS.

Anonymous said...

Hey, don't get Gio in on this she doesn't give blow job to anyone that was why she left the world famous Woodies secret club.

She is the one that got fucked on that one.

Anonymous said...

I think we should sue all these fucking bastards for blowing out our accounts. CCI is just some fucking shit that never made my buddy any money. The only way woodie figured it out was to fuck us over selling his shit.

Anonymous said...

Any body got some alcohol? we didn't have quite the turnout at the LVTAL and so I don't have quite the dinner and drink budget...

Please help

Anonymous said...

hey we got no problems here, oh crap, wait' hey you damn kittens, sugar and spice get the fak off my computer, hey Tony come fix this crap for me for me, I need to trade the damn patterns

Anonymous said...

gotta give credit where credit is due, this blog is frick'n hilarious....keep up the good work, it's good for something...

Anonymous said...

http://www.woodiesccidvds.com/

now that's dumb!

Anonymous said...

A friend of mine said he received a letter from a lawyer who is bringing a class action suit against Woodie. He said it had something to do with Make A Wish.

He was not interested and the lawyer instructed him to mail the letter back to him. So he does not have a copy.

Did anyone else get this letter? Would you please publish it here?
Thanks so much.

Anonymous said...

Hi Cathy, how are you, I haven't heard anything about this yet and I hang out in TW's room. I'll let you know if I do...c'mon over if you want

http://www.ccitraders.com/

how's your trading going?
have a good X-mas Sweetie....

Anonymous said...

Use CCI?????

Yick, icky poo poo!

Wash out your mouth with soap!

Anonymous said...

Well everyone must think range bars are the new and best thing. Woodie says its so and just like that everyone uses them. NO questions asked. Even this blog has not even a peep about the latest and greatest.

Anonymous said...

Well it's a good thing it's Woodie's idea'r, if anyone else brought them up they'd be banned from his "club" good job Woodie on a job well done..

Anonymous said...

This is nothing new. The modus operandi is as follows: Whenever there is a new TAL (Need to raise money), he introduces a new pattern or nuance.

Obviously this baits the neophytes into thinking they are getting the holy grail.

Obviously if the system was successful, there would be no need to introduce new things, dont you think ?

In this vein, he introduced the "SideWinder", "Tony Trade", "Chop Zone Indicator", "Plateau Trade", "Vegas Trade" and others as new items to his regular stuff. He also states that he has a faster special cci which magically will work should the present cci fail.

His latest if of course "The Range Bars". Additionally he is selling DVD's, AutoTrading and what have you.

Of course now, he has gotten away from stating that it is all free, now all that charity stuff is for charitable trading.

So what else is new.

Would anybody like to guess, what he will introduce next.

Anonymous said...

What will be new at Woodie's Club?????

Probably direct deposit into his account!

ROFLMAO

Anonymous said...

http://www.ccitraders.com/

http://www.ccitraders.com/

http://www.ccitraders.com/

http://www.ccitraders.com/

Anonymous said...

Hi TW, I sure miss ya, can you come back to my room? I wanna be buddies again, this CCI is crap and doesn't work so I'm charging for my service now, we can put you on our payroll, what'cha say, buddy

Anonymous said...

Woodies Scam Falling Apart... Fast!

Another scam comes to light.

http://www.5280tradinggroup.com/

Anonymous said...

Kathy, how can this be a woodie scam? this is a link to Rev's trading page? I thought he was a good moderator, seemed to know his stuff, did he and Woodie have it out?

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Anonymous said...

wow, I didn't realize that Woodie did that to Rev, good for Rev though for leaving, Woodie sure screws everybody don't he....what a schmuck.

Anonymous said...

Wow... this dump is so lucky to have a crybaby like 'Sweathog Cathy' (who has never been able to trade) Trolling around all the time giving everyone such masterful advice and blaming everyone except herself for losing money.
Aw... their talking about you over at ET

Anonymous said...

So, what goes on in the Dennis Bolze Room, anyone making any money other than Sport?

Anonymous said...

Looks like this joint is finally all out of steam and Woodie's is going just as strong as ever. This place always was just a big waste of time. " Where The Losers Came To Whine "

Anonymous said...

whine whine whine all i do is fucking whine because i am a fucking loser at least i got out of the woodies rooom before i became a big ass loser like this blog is fuck all of you losers

Anonymous said...

yea you know this blog was about spreading the truth about woodie but you ain't don't nothing but whine go get a fucking job asshole

Anonymous said...

Hey guys, can we have another thread here? This is so long it takes 2 pages!

Hi Tony. Guess all you can do is resort to name calling. Fire away. LOL.

Anonymous said...

yea all this is about is some fucking asshole posting shit and can't back any of it up drop dead and whine somewhere else shithead

Anonymous said...

Do you want proof?
Here is your proof.
This is not going un-noticed by the authorities either.

Man with a Mission

Anonymous said...

Bolz really doesn't have a thing, as long as they show their expenses exceeded what was taken in (not to hard to do) then nothing would go to charity - simple as that.

Anonymous said...

Ever hear of the Rico Act?

Anonymous said...

http://www.woodiescciclub.com/make-a-wish/index.htm

Here's your proof fairy.

Anonymous said...

http://www.woodiescciclub.com/ make-a-wish/index.htm

Anonymous said...

So much for sports blog bringing the truth out, just more BS (Bolze Shit)

Anonymous said...

Well, woodie it was ABOUT TIME you started listing the donations to Make-A-Wish on your website.

WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG?

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