This eblog has become very popular! The feedback has been reviewed by all chatroom owners, moderators and the high profile members. And best of all they are making changes! Some more then others but keep it up and change will come. Please keep the comments opinionated and factual, but without bashing. It cuts deeper when words are strong yet civil. Thank you! Right now due to the overwhelming email received about a topic we have chosen to start Project: Sidewinder
The goal is to make it available for all charting packages. We are looking to find persons who can develop it for each charting package.
- If you can develop what results are gathered into an indicator for your charting package or know someone that can, then please post the information here. That person will receive special status and acknowledgement!
- Scourer the internet and find the formula. Ask people close to the source. Gather information and collect facts. Post your results.
- Verify the information posted against what you are seeing on the live charts. Post your results.
- Post any information and links you have found regarding the Sidewinder.
Together we will further the cause of Traders Helping Traders! We can all benefit from Project: Sidewinder
Monday, September 05, 2005
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All this hoopla about "the Sidewinder". Give me a break. It is only used for ZLRs and you KNOW how well those work. LOL.
I have a better plan. I use the EMA and only take 100 line rejects when the EMA is over a 30 degree angle.
That's the reason we need to create it for all otehr charting packages. Why is woodie not getting it done for any other chartign package except for the ones in which he is getting kickbacks for?
Woodie is a true SELL-OUT now!
the sidewinder is just another bogus "must have" indicator to keep the sheeple around begging for it. don't worry if you don't have it. as woodie assured everyone when it was first plastered on his pearlfromarizona esignal charts many moons ago, "we'll have it programmed for everyone on sierra and tradestation. if we can't get it for everyone, then i'll take it off my charts."
we all know woodie never lies.
The sidewinder is only used for ZLR. I personally find the EMA over 28 degrees of angle a better indicator for them. Just my 2 cents.
i agree but it is true that newbies are being led to buy a product by the nose because woodie is scamming them. now he is scamming them about autotrader.
we do need to get sidewinder for all charting packages just to put a stop to this.
Try this for the Sidewinder....combine the results of the angle a 34EMA and a 25LSMA and divide it by 2. Now if it is over a 30% angle it is green, under a 20% angle it is red and between the two is yellow.
I am not a programmer so it is up to you to program this formula.
Come on guys, I need your help to save the sidewinder. I am asking as a friend. I forgive you for everything you have said bad about me. Please come back in the chat room anytime and help us. Traders helping Trading and I need your help now more then ever. Please don't let me down in my darkest hours.
This sidewinder joke is stale. Bring back the CCI bands from the dead & useless indicators graveyard, Woodie. Now that was funny.
this is the 'special' code used to calc the sidewinder. code it and verify it. you will see. enjoy! Traders Helping Traders (finally)!
[-- START SIDEWINDER --]
period is 25 and 34.
calc used is arc-tanget angle of lsma-slope(25)/lsmafactor and
ema-slope(34)/emafactor
added together where slope is (x - median(ema or lsma)*ticamount
where factor is squareroot(interval/180 degrees) where interval is:
day = 60*sessionduration
week = 60*sessionduration*5
month = 60*sessionduration*22
where sessionduration is minutes showing.
green is above 100.
yellow is above 75.
red is everything else.
[-- END SIDEWINDER --]
has anyone coded teh sidewinder posted above yet? is it the real thing?
Anyone got the sidewinder coded yet with the formula posted? Would love to see if it works.
Thanks
Woodies sidewinder is worthless. He just uses it as a ploy to get people to sign up with pfg. move on and find something that will make u $$$
sidewinder on ZLR is golden my people!
We want to thank all those who posted on this topic. However you do need to keep it on topic for this particular thread please. As such we have removed all posts unrelated to Project: Sidewinder.
Remember that stating strict facts and opinions in a civil manner cuts deeper than you can imagine.
Keep up the great posts.
On another forum someone said you can find the sidewinder at www.tradershaven.net.
nope. nothing there that i can see. looks like drbob is spamming his site now.
I didnt spam anything. I could care less about the sidewinder..I don't use it, have no use for it and could care less about it. If someone wants to post the code for it on tradershaven.net, go right ahead.
No that wasn't Dr Bob "spamming".....it was me. I stand corrected, I didn't check it out before I posted. There is no sidewinder code on Trader's Haven forum. My bad.
haha, woodie just announced that SW will be available for sierra.
great job to this bog for putting pressure on him! YAHOOOOO!
actually it was the code on this blog that allowed someone to create it and code it. then they told woodie they had it and wanted to pass it out.
woodie had no choice but to say that "i was told that sidewinder will be available for sierra users and DLL will be posted in forum by derek"
poor woodie. couldnt hold onto his little scam anylonger!
great work PEOPLE!
Sidewinder for Sierra Charts:
http://woodiescciclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=364
So, now are you happy? LOL.
i myself am VERY impressed that this blog put that must pressure in under a week or so on woodie. exactly as it should be.
traders helping traders from scammers lying to traders.
thank you Traders Helping Traders!
no thank you woodie!
What is the big deal about the code. The crapola doesn't work and having the code wouldn't change that.
anybody listening to Todd the Moron at Woodies room? This guy, who hasnt made a good call in his entire moderating career, is saying that he will beat ANY price action trader in the world at ANY live trading expo in the world.
yeah right.
Now that we have this sidewinder thing worked out, can we please get back to bashing gio?
Well, I don't see you running to take Todd up on his offer. Put up or shut up!
ROFL, now THAT is funny. he never posts a live trade, exit or entry...just spews on and on and on and on in that creepy voice and you think he can trade lol.
go see Juicy Pink post trades in Sports blog. she was even trading before the european market got started and had enough balls to trade live posts. and she is a damn super model. ROFLMAO! and she traded when we don't trade! ROFLMAO and she still posted trades hahahaha!
http://www.tradersparadise.blogspot.com/
she has more nuts then anyone in woodies room!
Did you guys hear Todd the Moron today? The way he went on and on and on that all price traders are idiots who only takes loosing trades (always according to Todd!)and the way he uplifted himself as a trader and a mentor...my good - that made me physically ill!
And did you hear mr Mplay (i am 50 years but still act like an 7-year-old)? Did he even for one second talk about the markets today? Nooooo - not mr Mplay. He probably dont even trade so he just sits there talking schmack about his monkey. My god - does ANYbody find his rambling interesting?
Regarding Todd - I heard from one of the more prominent persons in Woodies room that Todd has been struggling very much with his own trading and that he just can´t seem to be able to make profits on a consistent basis. He is aware of his problems and are working on them but it will probably take him a year or two to learn how to trade properly (rembember that he is a newbie at this). So don´t bash him too much. I am sure he is trying his very best! The same moderator also told me that Todd suffers from bad self esteem and this may be the reason why he is always trying to look like he is the best trader on the planet.
I would like to know who this moderator is to give him/her a peice of my mind.
that comment is very strange. why not give your peice of mind here?
some people make things so hard.
this was posted on another board for creating the EMA angle for sierra charts. graphdataout[x] are used for value storage and also for output used to display the lines drawn:
k1 = 2 / ((float)EmaLen + 1); // calculate EMA factor
k2 = 1 - k1; // calculate EMA factor
mult = number of tics for one bar.
sg.SubGraphDataOut[6][pos] = (k1 * sg.BaseDataIn[SC_LAST] [pos]) + (k2 * sg.SubGraphDataOut[6] [pos - 1]); //BaseDataIn[3] is the closing prices array for the chart
sg.SubGraphDataOut[7][pos] = atan((sg.SubGraphDataOut[6][pos] - ((sg.SubGraphDataOut[6][pos-1] + sg.SubGraphDataOut[6][pos-2])/2))*mult)*180.0/(22. 0/7.0);
emaangle = sg.SubGraphDataOut[7][pos];
Note that the code for mult needs to be modified appropriately. You could also substitute pi for 22/7
Anybody listening to Todd the Moron today? Jeeeez - is he the worst trader in the history of mankind?
Yes. I totally agree that Todd may be a moron when it comes to trading. He was, however, very succesful in his prior career. Todd used to be a pizza delivery boy and was very fast at deliveriving those pizzas. And he almost never got them to the wrong adress.
So. He does not stink at everythink he does in his life.
Todd used to autodeliver pizzas to my house. It was a very effective system using a robot car. He's a very smart cookie. Just give him some time to work the kinks out of his autotrader. It's going to blow up and he'll be swimming in bling.
todd is an example of someone that wants to grab the mic. speak to it like its his 'nubbie' and may be a latent homo.
todd isnt a trader, obviously.
its just an example of woodie letting anyone with skills to push a mic button moderate.
they do it FREE and it drags in newbies because newbies just want to hear voice or someone telling them what to do for a trade.
honestly, that is exactly what is going on. what do you think?
Are we finally done talking about the Sidewinder? Good, let's move on...
Back to TonyUk...
I believe he is the poster boy for a lot of what's wrong with Woodie's room.
how many thousands of newsletter are there out there giving trading advice?
you think if it was illegal that they would be doing it? ROFL
woodie is a scammer and doesn't even understand the law. he uses it as a wall to hide behind.
you wonder why woodie doesn’t respond to the posts? how can he? he knows damn near all of them are real, factual and has no way to hide from them.
woodie, come answer these questions or you will be considered a scammer.
please expound more on why you think TonyUK is what represents the problems in woodies room?
what does tonyuk do at TAL? wipe woodie ass
is that sports new room? will be nice to have a room we can share info, shoot the bull and do as we want. drbobs room is useless. 3 mods and 6 people is all it is about. it does suck like people are saying. no direction, no fun, no warmth, etc. just sucks period.
looks like sport couldn't handle the questions about if he trades or not. he has turned posting back off.
folks, i DO BELIEVE we have hit a sore spot.
[WOODIES IS A SCAMMSTER]
[SPORT CAN'TRADE]
WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPORT CAN'T AND DOESN'T TRADE!
NO MORE POSTING ALLOWED IN HIS ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAHHH! WAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
read below: (we win - whoo hooo!)
---------------------------------
OF COURSE.....the comments are back off....WHY???
I have turned the comments back off again and this time I guess it will be for a long time. I am personally tired of one person doing nothing by typing endless crap about anything he can think of instead of sharing ideas or commenting on my ideas. There are about 1370 hits a day to this blog and no one really posts anything interesting except JAB doing a Andy Rooney spoof. If you have anything interesting just email me.
oh my god. you were right. what a looser. all this time saying he trades then making up phoney post like that. congratulations!
sport is a loser. i see that now. clear as you all called it.
my oh my was i fooled.
sport you do SUCK!
You win what?
if you want to know what the real facts are on sport aka dennis and any others like woodie and drbob go to http://factsonlyplease.blogspot.com/
its a more open eblog where you can let it all hang out instead.
same old gio. clueless.
'duh duh duh'
what did i did?
'duh duh duh'
do we did won something?
'duh duh duh'
IS EVERYONE LISTENING TO ME?!?!?!
WELL I GUESS NO ONE WANTS TO LISTEN TO ME!
'duh duh duh'
I see it's the same wacked out wierdo making all the posts here again, just like he was doing on sports blog and his other useless blog "factsonlyplease", which should be called "liesonlyplease".
Don't you ever get tired of talking to yourself, making up replies that you can then reply to? A real sign of a mentally ill person - they talk to themselves and make up lies all the time. To bad your drugs are failing you. What are the voices in your head telling you now?
And your new paltalk chatroom was a big hit too, only you and your puppet were there today. NO ONE else gives a damn about your psychotic lies and ignorant personal attacks. Get a clue loser...
well i post here too so that makes you wrong. and i do beleive that the person that created the new room in paltalk is a friend of sports or at least likes him. i think that is plain to see. are you so paranoid that you can't see past that?
i don't like sport myself. but i can clearly see that person did it for sport. funny how sport never showed up as far as i can tell lol.
looser! can't trade!
chow
Can't we all get along, except Susan. Don't call me!!!
woodie is such a SCAMMER!
woodie sure lied to us about not gettign kickbacks. wonder why you freaking sissy ass mods don't ask him to his face in the room?
why? why not?
really, i mean it. why?
what is your excuse for not asking?
i know for a fact he discusses VERY little with you guys. he doesn't even talk about trading in PM's with you. I know for a fact.
not all...
I have adjusted the sidewinder to 60 now, it's working better. So everyone come back and help me.
If you can help me, please this thing has a very bugs in it. I love you all, please come back and help me. Tomorrow, OK????? I am truely sorry for all the behind the scences deals and how I treated people in the past.
I'm sorry too, Ken.
I'm just a sorry old drunk in tights.
SPeaking of talent, where is BobCahty at again?
Last time I heard, she was cutting the President's hair on Air Force One.....guess Woodie got her the job.
So anyone trying to fix my holy grail here. Come on I have deals waiting for this>
There is only one Holy Grail.....MARRY RICH!
btw, sidewinder is a registered trademark of microsoft. anyone remember what it is ?
another ripoff by the woodster, hehe. everything was invented by the genius rofl.
So... I understand woodie is crankin up the moderator-be-gone feature on HC.
Stay tuned - a storm's abrewin'.
17:25:17 {BurnieW-FL} Gio hang in there we appreciate you so much
17:25:24 {Summer_CO} @#$% Don't want ou to go...
17:25:46 {biker} why fall out from it?
17:25:51 {PwdrPig_OR} Always listen to you every week . . . sorry to hear.
17:25:51 {AlanC} what happens? I just tune in?
17:25:55 {rmh2144} I am not aware but appreciate your work
17:25:58 {ED_C} no way. don't leave
17:26:00 {Dsquared} Gio you have helped me a lot of money THANK YOU!
17:26:13 {JJ} can we go with you
17:26:13 {Mary_Frances} I hope you continue. you are one calm clear cool COMPITANT cucumber.
17:26:14 {SIZ} Thanks for everything GIO. The only reason I keep my hotcomm is to listen to you
17:26:36 {hanksterr} cant leave, not allowed
17:26:38 {Mary_Frances} you MUST STAY...
17:26:47 {GGG} I have really enjoyed your lessons in my short time here.
17:26:50 {biker} agree hanksterr
17:26:55 {viper} Well lets hope not Gio !! i think all of the info in this room is good
17:26:58 {Freida_WI} Thanks Gio - you are my favorite moderator, I learn the most from you
- this makes me sad - hope things are ok...
17:27:06 {lk} Please Stay
17:27:26 {PwdrPig_OR} Thanks for all your information . . so much appreciated.
17:27:26 {shane_CA} Gio your insights and charting expertise are invaluable!
17:27:35 {groper} I appreciate your help - I certainly don't want you to leave- hey you can post as many buffalo as you like
17:27:44 {biker} gio you are so important to me and alot of people
17:28:03 {Barb_z_va.} well hopefully things will work out and we can look forward to next week
17:28:08 {Barb_z_va.} with Gio
17:28:11 {1peter} we appreciate your help very ,very much,hope it will be hapy outcome from this ,you hepl so much many thanks for that
17:28:15 {lucky} Thanks ! Gio u r the best
17:28:15 {GGG} please post email
17:28:20 {rmh2144} I don't have it--can you post it
17:28:32 {BurnieW-FL} email again Gio please
17:28:49 {gio} mtgio@snet.net
17:28:50 {1peter} help
17:29:04 {BurnieW-FL} man thats a great stock !!
17:29:41 {shane_CA} will do
17:29:53 {lucky} Whats next monday
17:30:12 {lonsan} thanks Gio.
17:30:15 {biker} no calendaris wrong
17:30:28 {lk} Thanks gio You are the best
17:30:29 {biker} columbus day market is open
17:30:31 {lucky} Bona Petite
17:30:43 {ruthc} Very helpful tonight--thanks Gio
17:30:45 {AlanC} why are you leaving??? gio???
17:31:00 {gil} thank you gio, goodnight.hope to see you.
17:31:00 {mj} gio, thank you very much...hope to see you here next monday
17:31:04 {PwdrPig_OR} Thanks, Gio . . Good Luck.
17:31:17 {lk} gio Hope to see you next Monday
17:31:31 {DK} hope you stay really appreciate your insight I am new here and thank you
17:31:33 {GGG} HOPE TO HEAR YOU AGAIN,
Thanks ! GIO
17:31:40 {NW_Trader} Thank you for your moderating. I have really enjoyed it. I'm a newbie.
17:31:41 {pops} stock traders alminac says bond market closed monday,but stock open
17:31:41 {dug} Great ideas, Gio! Thanks a bunch! You are a great teacher! I look forward to your being here for a long time.
17:31:43 {Barb_z_va.} Thanks we will look forward to seeing you next week then!
17:31:46 {Scanner-VA} thanks gio, hope it works out for you to stay
17:31:48 {AlanC} Please stay you are a great Mod. I learn a lot from you.
17:31:54 {AlanC} Thank You ! gio
17:32:05 {biker} I don;t understand, why "fall out" because you are doing a seminar on your own?
17:32:05 {GGG} NO
17:32:15 {ED_C} let's write a petition to the boss.
17:32:23 {walton} gio, I have just been lurking in the background learning from you. It makes me sad to think about you leaving--you are the greatest!
17:32:37 {biker} isn't this a free country?
17:32:37 {hanksterr} biker good ?
17:32:45 {biker} i don;t get it
17:32:53 {hanksterr} me neither
17:32:55 {1peter} it will be unreplacable loss!
17:32:59 {limeaway} Thank you Gio, alway look to see you
17:33:04 {rmh2144} thanks Gio
17:33:09 {BurnieW-FL} oh at least Three times a Lady could make a good song
17:33:10 {GeorgeE} thanks
17:33:11 {Summer_CO} I hope so...
17:33:12 {GeorgeE} gio
17:33:21 {ED_C} okay thanks Gio. take care.
17:33:25 {r99} Gio, thanks again for all your time and great information, hope you stay
17:33:27 {Mary_Frances} hope it GETS WORKED OUT AND SEE YOU NEXT MONDAY
17:33:29 {mj} have a good night, gio...thanks again
17:33:29 {raz7} you all seem such reasonable people- hope you can workmit allout
17:33:30 {DrB} Thanks Gio, hope to see you next Monday!!!
17:33:31 {Mary_Frances} THANKS A TON
17:33:38 {pops} thanks gio
17:33:42 {hanksterr} oh boy need a canadian turkey
17:33:43 {Barb_z_va.} Have a nice evening Gio !
17:33:45 {gio} Timed Camera (1s) Off
17:33:46 {Freida_WI} Thanks Gio
17:33:47 {Mary_Frances} WHAT is your web site or email
17:33:48 {sweetwillyt} thanks Gio
17:33:49 {shane_CA} Gio, thanks for all your wonderful help!
17:33:50 {biker} thanks gio, hope to see you next monday
17:33:52 {viper} Thanks Gio!!!
17:33:57 {elisha} thank you
17:34:01 {irnbtrfly_BC} Thanks ! gio
17:34:02 {gio} mtgio@snet.net
17:34:04 {Razcal} If you lose Gio email me at razcal@brassfinders.com
17:34:04 {Mary_Frances} YOU'RE THE BEST
17:34:06 {Summer_CO} www.methodtrading.com
17:34:18 {Mary_Frances} thanks razcal
17:34:26 {Razcal} I'll know where she is..
17:34:31 {casey} Thank You !
17:34:50 {Summer_CO} Good Razcal...if she goes, she will be GREATLY missed
17:34:55 {hanksterr} just email the boss your preference
17:35:08 {hanksterr} thats what he seems to respond to
17:35:19 {Summer_CO} ...do you think it will do any good?
17:35:19 {Mary_Frances} thnx Hank
17:35:25 {hanksterr} of course
17:35:31 {Mary_Frances} and summer
17:35:38 {Barb_z_va.} sure I will register my vote -- good idea - will do
17:36:22 {m_duke} thank u gio - we're not gonna let u go
17:36:45 {biker} yes will e-mail woodie
17:36:54 {hanksterr} thx summer
17:37:06 {hanksterr} hey paul
17:37:14 {m_duke} heya hank
17:37:17 {Summer_CO} You're Welcome all
17:37:52 {DK} who's site is methodtrading?
17:37:52 {biker} ok folks, tomorrow is another day
17:37:55 {biker} nite all
17:38:11 {Summer_CO} Methodtrading.com is Gio's site
17:38:20 {DK} thanks
17:38:32 {Summer_CO} You're Welcome
17:57:11 {hanksterr} foxy if u scroll up u will know as much as I do
18:02:04 {foxy2} hanksterr I did scroll up but missed the conversation that went on just thought I'd check with you to see if you knew anymore thanks
19:49:49 {groper} I don't Know what the deal is with Gio and I don't even care to know. But all I can say is that she has been very helpful to us stock traders and her seminars have been very helpful and accurate. I hope that the issues may be resolved and she may continue light the candles.
19:50:09 {groper} Sinc
20:19:36 {hanksterr} hi
20:19:44 {hanksterr} im back just reading old stuff
23:43:22 {WoodiesCCIclub-BOT} Room Session has been officially closed by woodie...
23:43:22 {WoodiesCCIclub-BOT}
Disconnected 10/3/2005.
can anyone tell me without hype and lies and rhetoric what happened with GIO?
please be detailed. i missed it.
thanks.
Nope. No one cares!!!
Would the owner of this blog kindly start a new subject? Something tells me that there is going to be a bit of activity on this latest subject concerning gio's and soren's workshop and why woodie doesn't want any competition.
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